i hear you on the terrorist thing... what made me sick was when i heard that the fucking iraqs ambushed those civilians last week and freakin drug their bodies down the street... how sick is that they need to be beat in the head with a base ball bat... its sick what they are doing we want to help them out and they do not give us anything in return...

So, what your saying is that you don't agree with the right to believe in what you want to believe? Do you have a preference in faith? These people do. The Shiite Muslims do. They believe so strongly in their faith that they will kill to defend it. They believe so strongly in their faith that they will sacrafice _themselves_ to defend it. It's not a matter of getting a Happy Meal (tm). It's a matter of how much they believe in the afterlife and their faith. The fact that they kill USians most likely deals with the fact that the US has constantly lended a hand in Jerusalem, not to the Muslims, but to the Israelis and Jews. We've favored one side of the religious war for the holy land, and have shown nothing but disrespect for what they believe is rightfully theirs. Is it theirs? I don't know, I have no clue. But they believe it is, and rather then being a mediator between the Israelis and Muslims, we choose a side, and they have shown great disapproval.
What about helping them in the 80s? Well, when the CIA trained Osama bin Laden in the early 80s, it was to help out in the fight against Iran. So, we help the Muslims when we need something. They got sick of it, said, "Hey, FUCK YOU! You can't use us, and not help us!" And their you have it.

If you do have a preference in faith it doesn't matter....when is the last time someone tried to suppress a catholic in America or tell them they had to be Jewish?? It is something that hopefully we will never be faced with here. We have freedoms given to us by the Constitution.

Everyday people try and strip the faith from the Muslims and tell them "how it's going to be." I would probably get defensive also. I don't even like people telling me they don't like my car.

We had a war over our countries freedom, would we do it again for our faith(s)?

:: MB

Hyppo-

I think you missed my point. Everyone has the right to believe what they would like, where I diasagree is when innocent lives are taken in the name of that god/higher being or what have you.

The idea is a rather easy one. Believe what you like and don't force it on other people.

To say that blowing up a train in Spain or crashing jet liners into Skyscrapers is justified because they are entitled to there own beliefs is ludicrous....at least in my opinion.

I never said it was justified. I just explained their side of it. Something that no one _EVER_ does, which is why we still have Train bombins and other such shit.

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